tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post4281167497130181723..comments2024-01-05T14:03:34.310-05:00Comments on CityKin: Scrap Zoning Laws and Legalize Great PlacesCityKinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09068481950069401281noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-76261935455597034942009-01-10T18:06:00.000-05:002009-01-10T18:06:00.000-05:00@mark miller That was and is my favorite house nea...@mark miller That was and is my favorite house near Hyde Park. I can't think of how you could reasonably stop that, and I hope no one figures a way to.bshermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09004800954109088882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-17323460951389726342009-01-09T13:21:00.000-05:002009-01-09T13:21:00.000-05:00^I love that house. I don't want to stop creativi...^I love that house. I don't want to stop creativity of that sort at all.CityKinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068481950069401281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-59147368341006946262009-01-09T12:56:00.000-05:002009-01-09T12:56:00.000-05:00Lets say you wave your magic wand and put the perf...Lets say you wave your magic wand and put the perfect solution in place. How would it address something like <A HREF="http://5chw4r7z.blogspot.com/2009/01/mushroom-house.html" REL="nofollow">this</A>?Mark Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155390616574310800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-89957136007046686652009-01-09T12:32:00.000-05:002009-01-09T12:32:00.000-05:00It's certainly an interesting idea, although I'm n...It's certainly an interesting idea, although I'm not sure common thought processes will be ditched in the process. Older towns/cities that we view as being great urban spaces were built that way through necessity based on technology of that time and lifestyles. Today's lifestyles and technology are completely different. So I think it's more about changing lifestyle than it is changing the law (or removing it).Randy Simeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14272257274373604807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-57120256439471960732009-01-09T12:30:00.000-05:002009-01-09T12:30:00.000-05:00I'm totally with you on the "light trespass".In my...I'm totally with you on the "light trespass".<BR/><BR/>In my view the City should concern itself with the public realm, which is basically the street, sidewalk and to some extend, the facades facing the street/ sidewalk. Light trespass, noise, bad smells and other types of pollution are also issues, but not all of these should fall under the zoning restrictions. Maybe none of them should.CityKinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068481950069401281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-33947512813082226712009-01-09T11:41:00.000-05:002009-01-09T11:41:00.000-05:00Noise & traffic from any of those wouldn't...Noise & traffic from any of those wouldn't bother me. Stray light from a gas station would though. Separate us with a row of trees, and even that would be OK.<BR/><BR/>Since 1989 I've been 4 doors down from Busken's main plant (24/7 operation, heavy trucks), LaRosa's, Mulligans, Lemon Grass, and a VERY busy entrance to Rookwood. We like city life, and that's just part of it.<BR/><BR/>The toughest thing to deal with is that fresh bakery smell seeping in the windows on weekend mornings. Hard sayin' how many inches that's added to my waist.Mark Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155390616574310800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-69593555746513575982009-01-09T10:53:00.000-05:002009-01-09T10:53:00.000-05:00And no, I don't want to live in Houston, or a city...And no, I don't want to live in Houston, or a city like it.CityKinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068481950069401281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-18508594882771307482009-01-09T10:52:00.000-05:002009-01-09T10:52:00.000-05:00I'm closer to your position than you think Mark. ...I'm closer to your position than you think Mark. But would you be OK with a gas station/bingo hall/ nightclub next door to you in your neighborhood, whether it be round or square?CityKinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068481950069401281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-60988669209454450562009-01-09T10:27:00.000-05:002009-01-09T10:27:00.000-05:00Noooooooooo!Not HOUSTON!I thought street layout wa...Noooooooooo!<BR/>Not HOUSTON!<BR/><BR/>I thought street layout was "platting". That's already done in our case, and <B>is</B> a proper role of government. I'm not against the orderliness of a grid to organize things, I just hate forced conformity that overly constrains creativity.<BR/><BR/>If somebody wants to put a round building on a square lot, let 'em. If somebody else wants to put a putt-putt course in OTR, that's fine too.<BR/><BR/>Don't put obstacles in people's way unless you absolutely have to.Mark Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155390616574310800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-2852514177759254462009-01-09T10:07:00.000-05:002009-01-09T10:07:00.000-05:00Mark;A city without any "coding" at all might resu...Mark;<BR/>A city without any "coding" at all might result in a place like Hong Kong, Mexico City or Houston. That might be fine for some people, but the most beautiful cities do have some formal guide at least for the layout of the streets and the private frontage facing the streets.CityKinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068481950069401281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-39457509924565317702009-01-09T09:56:00.000-05:002009-01-09T09:56:00.000-05:00Please run this post once a week. Have it printed...Please run this post once a week. Have it printed up and dropped from a helicopter. Rent the jumbotron on Fountain Square and run this post five times a day. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and don't forget Complete Streets.Radarmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07490374472499934197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-30996324666522923842009-01-09T09:32:00.000-05:002009-01-09T09:32:00.000-05:00Wow, that bit about generic real estate products i...Wow, that bit about generic real estate products is something that I hadn't really thought about before. Speculating on generic demand with out a real vision for the eventual people and businesses seems really toxic.<BR/><BR/>My wife has a background in urban planning and we moved back to Cincinnati last year to be with family and start our own businesses. It's pretty exciting to see some progressive planning discussions going on back here.<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/>-- MarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-4608642398691636072009-01-09T09:23:00.000-05:002009-01-09T09:23:00.000-05:00No need to get out a petition, just vote for Quall...No need to get out a petition, just vote for Qualls.Quimbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414025266566849822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-43265023833064253402009-01-09T07:07:00.000-05:002009-01-09T07:07:00.000-05:00I agree we need to rethink zoning and planning esp...I agree we need to rethink zoning and planning especially in historic neighborhoods. The bigger problem related to the sucess of downtown neighnorhoods is a 'bulldoze happy" city government that thinks its better to spend 10 grand of taxpayer money to level 130 yr old homes in the 'hope' that someday a developer will come in and build there, with no review or input form neighborhood affected. The city is planning on bulldozing 4 houses on Bank St, and no one in the city wants to talk about a compromise that might save them and there all people who might be willing to come in and restore them. We need to fix the 'mindset' of city govenrment, but you have to do that before you can deal with zoning.Paul Wilhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327323928859170490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6782792124434572025.post-26025545080940533452009-01-09T06:42:00.000-05:002009-01-09T06:42:00.000-05:00What happened to "thou shalt not dink with the Cit...What happened to "<I>thou shalt not dink with the City Charter</I>"?!? This would require a complete rewrite of Article VII, Section 3.<BR/><BR/>Not that there's anything wrong with that. Get a petition together to scrap the entire concept of zoning, and as long as you don't replace it with anything, I'd be delighted to sign it.<BR/><BR/>After all it wasn't "coding" or "forms" that made cities great in the first place. It was the unfettered freedom of people to build according to their own visions and means. The built environment should evolve according to public demand in the market, not by some Stalinistic command and control bureaucracy.Mark Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155390616574310800noreply@blogger.com